SI numbers, release dates, PDK, Approvals Jelly Bean To Sony Moderators & Community Manager(s)

[Uliwooly]

To Sony Moderators and Community Manager(s)

There are multiple threads and posts with the same questions and this will NOT going to stop until Sony release a full official statement on this,

1. What does "We will however, continue to support all these products with firmware maintenance releases"? will this fix the bugs?
2. Who is in charge of approving the SIM Free updates per country?
3. Who approve last Sony or a Carrier in the case that it's locked to a carrier?
4. Did Sony received a Jelly Bean PDK?
   
5. Will Sony fulfill or break the "AT LEAST" 18months software updates commitment/agreement at Google I/O 2011?
   
6. How come the 2012 Xperias with the same or lower hardware specs, compared to the 2011 Xperias, run ICS smooth w/o all the 2011 lag/crashing issues?
   
7. On the same subject as 5. Is sony going to fix all this issues and release an update to the 2011 Xperias w/o bugs?
   
8. On the subject as 4. Will the Xperia Arc, Play, Neo and Pro will no longer be supported at the end of August? as it will be 18months since they were released
   
9. Will the Current Xperia S be overclocked like the Xperia SL as this "new" xperia S will have the same hardware as the current Xperia S just overclocked CPU?
   
10. Will Sony improve the Camera/Picture/Video quality? is this a hardware or software limitation? there are some users experiencing focus issues with the Xperia S, is this a hardware issue that must be recalled?
    

Yes, it might be Complex, yes it might be hard to answer but if Sony Developer were able to post a thread on how we get an update starting from the source code to the final product (just before approvals) I think this can be done, it'll be like a second part to From Source Code to upgrade release.

Also if you have another question feel free to post it and I'll add it to this top of this thread, try to make general questions not specific (i.e. when is my SI number will be approved/posted/etc, instead something like,  who can we contact to find out if our carrier it's going to release or not the update?)

[Uliwooly]

EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW

ESKERAHN IS IN CHARGE OF SPAM, PERSONAL ATTACKS ETC, SO EVEN IF YOU MARK SOMETHING AS OFFENSIVE HE MIGHT NOT WANT TO DELETE IT, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING HE POSTED

[uliwooly-wooly]

Everybody check how we are being discredited, ridiculize by a moderator

http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/255105#255105

EskeRahn

3,275 posts since

May 5, 2011

8. Jul 25, 2012 2:00 PM (in response to uliwooly)

Re: If Google Nexus S will receive JB, why Xperia 2011 can't?

How could it be called anything but "speculative guesswork"?

It is a bit like if you claimed aliens from outer space was behind the murders of the Kennedys, and then require me to disprove it to falsify your statement...

If you accuse someone, then you have to provide the proofs. It is normal practise in the civilized world to let any doubt be in favour of the accused.

So you have to prove that any differences in the hardware design and/or microcode is insignificant for the upgrades. I'm not to prove that they are significant.

But remember. I'm not saying that you are wrong - I do not know - but I wish you would stop the accusations unless/until you can back them with proofs.

uliwooly

23,974 posts since

Jul 3, 2010

9. Jul 26, 2012 7:50 AM (in response to EskeRahn)

Re: If Google Nexus S will receive JB, why Xperia 2011 can't?

no it is NOT the same, the facts that not only I but other users had presented are that similar or even EQUAL hardware can handle and run ICS and JB w/o any problems, but you say that there might be something different, that's speculative guess since you do not know if there are any differences at all, you do NOT have any proof that the hardware is different, only your assumption which is a LOGICAL FALLACY. Do you have any proof that our arguments, facts etc are not true? no you don't, only your opinion.

I don't know about your country, but I have freedom of speech and I plan to use it, I'm not lying nor claiminig something that it's not true, check the FACTS BELLOW, do you have any tangible proof saying that those facts are not true?

1) Xperia Neo L has the same hardware as the Neo and Neo V, yet it runs ICS quite smooth, can you deny or refute that?

2) Xperia Miro & Tipo can run ICS smooth w/o lag, can you deny that? this phones have lower hardware specs than the 2011 Xperias? can you deny that w/ facts not opinions?

3) There are myriad phones from other brands that have the same and lower specs than the 2011 Xperias and run ICS w/o any lags, can you deny this?

I can and will keep going, in the mean time post FACTS and PROOFs

where is my proof, check the other threads where we've posted the facts, links, etc, we = chardeen, auni, I, etc

Don't forget to mark the Correct Answers & Helpful Answers

related topic, if you have some time please check this thread

http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/44888

EskeRahn

3,276 posts since

May 5, 2011

10. Jul 26, 2012 8:44 AM (in response to uliwooly)

Re: If Google Nexus S will receive JB, why Xperia 2011 can't?

I wonder if you know the very basic things about justice?

You are the one accusing Sony here, so you have to provide the proofs, no matter how you twist and try to invert it, to make it others task to disprove it.

1) SOME of the hardware are most likely the same. If you believe all are 100% identical, why don't you just flash the firmware for one and use it on the other? This must work flawlessly if the hardware is the same as you claim, and only the hardware matters. IF you can do that and the Neo L firmware runs smoothly on the Neo or Neo V THEN you would have a proof.

2) This is a "Have you stopped beating your wife" type of question. As you assumes that only the specs that are lower matters, and ignore any other differences, as the base of the question.

I haven't tried the phones in question, but I expect you are right (here) that it runs smoothly on the new models.

Again: Try and flash the Miro or Tipo firmware on a 2011 phone and if it works flawlessly, you have proved that you are right.

3) Again you are assuming that the major specs are all that matters. Two ordinary cars having both four wheels and an engine, does this mean they can pull the same size of camper?

4) Proofs needs&consists of facts. But you need enough (and the relevant) facts for it to add up to a proof.

5) I'm not questioning the facts in thing like the specs. But these specs does notprovide enough to add up to a proof.

[SignedAdam]

I'd say what he just put there on 118. on the Jul 26, 2012 at 4:51 PM (in response to uliwooly) is offensive.

[rodluizpant]

If they refuse JB then I don't know what to do anymore. I buy an Android device and it never gets upgraded. Galaxy S, Mini pro, Milestone 2... I don't have money to buy a Galaxy Nexus, its really expensive and I don't have enough knowledge for rooting phones, and really, clockworkmod's screen (a friend used this to flash ICS on my Milestone 2) makes me feel like I'm kiling my phone.

[SignedAdam]

It's really easy to flash your phone with something else, just download the flashtool, download the rom, backup everything, and the rom on the phone, flash the rom your downloaded, done! whats so hard, I have done lots of stuff life this, but I don't recommend anything else other than sonys roms, as its a phone and they do hold alot of stuff now to do with you, not just numbers now, like in the 1990's

Remember flashing your phone could effect your phones warrenty

[rodluizpant]

I guess it wouldn't be such a big deal losing the warranty, since I don't have it because I bought my phone on another country.

If someday I decide to flash a ROM in my phone I'll search the forum how to do it

[rodluizpant]

If the deal is that ICS in lower hardware is not a proof that 2011 xperias can run it well, it's at least a proof that the developers didn't do their best on the ICS ROM for the 2011 line or that timescape is terrible. I would go for both.

Really, Sony couldn't make it run smooth on Xperia S...

[Uliwooly]

What are the reasons that the 2011 Xperias aren't getting android 4.1 Jelly Bean?

[mayankspalace]

unfortunately on flashing our sony warranty would become void

and the new xperia nxt line up have lots of software and hardware issues!

[Nibb]

Where did you hear that? 2011 phones, at least the ones released in May, July are not even 1 year old and they will not get OS updates released until today?

If this is true, Sony will get massive lawsuits in the US and Europe. Go tell consumers that will not get an update 11 months after the phone was purchased. Not even 1 full year !!!

I don´t think they would be that dumb and kill their phone brand like this. In particular because even if they update them to a optimized or light OS version, if they keep customers happy on their older phones they still keep them on the Sony ecosystem.

I started to purchase more Sony hardware since I have a Sony phone. Like a PS3, and my next TV is going to be Sony if I can make all things play nice together.

If Sony makes a terrible job with my current phones, I will drop the brand and go back to my old brand which is Samsung, TVs, Radios, etc. And honestly I prefer Japanese brand over Korean one, but of course that depends on what kind of job they do. Because the other brand has already top quality in their product and cheaper. Im willing to pay an extra price for more quality and service from Sony.