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Hello there,

I'm hoping you guys on here can help me decide which phone to get.

All the comparison discussions I can find are between the Ray and the Arc, but for me the Arc is too big. I thought I'd decided on he Neo, but the delayed release was so long that now the Ray is going to be around, and I dont know which to go for.

Neo:

Pros - dedicated camera button, HDMI output, prefer the symmetry/camera lens in the centre.
Cons - bigger, fatter.

Ray:

Pros - smaller, thinner.
Cons - no dedicated camera button, no HDMI output.

As for camera, I don’t know which is better - LED on the Neo, or ‘photo light’ on the Ray?

Will I miss a real camera button? (all my previous SE phone have had one)

Do I really ‘need’ HDMI output?

The Ray is a much nicer size BUT are the differing camera features going to make me wish I’d gone for the Neo?

Any chance of help please?!

Uliwooly

Both of them have LED flash and Flashlight (when taking videos)

Xperia Ray

Camera

Aperture - f/2.4

Allows more light to reach the image sensor.

Flash / light type - Photo light

When lighting conditions are poor, your picture can still be good.

Digital Zoom - up to 16x

Get close to your subject.

Camera - 8.1 Megapixel

Capture and share special moments.

Video recording

Capture the action as it happens.

Video light

Camera

Aperture - f/2.4

Allows more light to reach the image sensor.

HD video recording (720p)

Record High Definition video with a simple touch of a button.

Front-facing camera (VGA)

Your phone is video-chat ready - and the front-facing camera is great for self-portraits, too.

Flash / light type - LED

When lighting conditions are poor, your picture can still be good.

Digital Zoom - smart zoom up to 2.46x

Get close to your subject.

Video stabiliser

Avoid bluriness caused by slight hand movements.

Video recording

Capture the action as it happens.

Video light

SONY ERICSSON XPERIA NEO

SONY ERICSSON XPERIA RAY

GENERAL	2G Network	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
	3G Network	HSDPA 900 / 2100	HSDPA 2100 - ST18i
		HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100	HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - ST18a
	Announced	2011, February	2011, June
	Status	Available. Released 2011, March	Coming soon. Exp. release 2011, August

SIZE	Dimensions	116 x 57 x 13 mm	111 x 53 x 9.4 mm
SIZE	Weight	126 g	100 g

DISPLAY	Type	LED-backlit LCD, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors	LED-backlit LCD, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
	Size	480 x 854 pixels, 3.7 inches	480 x 854 pixels, 3.3 inches
		- Scratch-resistant surface - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate - Multi-touch input method - Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off - Timescape UI	- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate - Bravia Mobile engine - Multi-touch input method - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off - Touch sensitive controls - Scratch-resistant display - Timescape UI

SOUND	Alert types	Vibration; MP3 ringtones	Vibration, MP3 ringtones
	Loudspeaker	Yes	Yes
	3.5mm jack	Yes	Yes

MEMORY	Phonebook	Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall	Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
	Call records	Practically unlimited	Practically unlimited
	Internal	320 MB storage, 512 MB RAM	1 GB (300 MB user available), 512 MB RAM
	Card slot	microSD, up to 32GB, 8 GB included	microSD, up to 32GB, 4GB included

DATA	GPRS	Yes	Up to 86 kbps
	EDGE	Yes	Up to 237 kbps
	3G	HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps	HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps
	WLAN	Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot	Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
	Bluetooth	Yes, v2.1 with A2DP	Yes, v2.1 with A2DP, EDR
	Infrared port	No	No
	USB	Yes, microUSB v2.0	Yes, v2.0 microUSB

CAMERA	Primary	8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash	8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
	Features	Video calling, touch focus, geo-tagging, face and smile detection	Geo-tagging, face detection, image stabilization
	Video	Yes, 720p@30fps, continuous autofocus, video light	Yes, 720p, video light
	Secondary	Yes	Yes

FEATURES	OS	Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread)	Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread)
	CPU	1GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon	1GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, MSM8255 Snapdragon chipset
	Messaging	SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email	SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push email, IM
	Browser	HTML	HTML
	Radio	Stereo FM radio with RDS	Stereo FM radio with RDS
	Games	Yes + downloadable	Yes
	Colors	Blue Gradient, Red, Silver	Black, Gold, White, Pink
	GPS	Yes, with A-GPS support	Yes, with A-GPS support
	Java	Yes, via Java MIDP emulator	Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
		- Digital Compass - SNS integration - HDMI port - MP4/H.264/WMV player - MP3/WMA/WAV/eAAC+ player - TrackID music recognition - Organizer - Document viewer - Adobe Flash 10.1 support - Voice memo/dial/commands - Predictive text input	- Digital compass - SNS integration - MP4/H.263/H.264 player - MP3/eAAC+/WAV player - TrackID music recognition - SensMe - Google Search, Maps, Gmail, YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk - Document viewer/editor - Adobe flash 10.1 support - Voice memo - Predictive text input

BATTERY		Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh	Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
	Stand-by	Up to 430 h (2G) / Up to 400 h (3G)	Up to 430 h (2G) / Up to 440 h (3G)
	Talk time	Up to 6 h 55 min (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)	Up to 6 h 50 min (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
	Music play	Up to 31 h	Up to 36 h

MISC	Price group

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Thank you for your replies.

To clarify - the “photo light” on the Ray is exactly the same as the “LED” on the Neo?

So the only difference between the 2 in terms of the camera is the physical button on the Neo that is missing on the Ray?

I don’t own a standalone camera so my phone is all I have for pics and vids, I need to get on ok with it.

Is not having a dedicated button an advantage / disadvantage? Will it make operating it trickier?

HDMI, nope you’re probably right, I can easily do without it.

As for hand size, the Neo felt fine, wouldn’t want any bigger though (Arc), the Ray is so much more pocketable as you say.

Thanks again.

Uliwooly

I would go for the Ray

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Hello,

I thought I'd better pop back and let you know what I decided, in case it helps others decide.

Well, I waited for the Ray to be released, and went into the shop and looked at them both side by side.

I came away with the Neo.

Although the Ray was smaller and thinner, in my opinion it did not sit as well in the pocket, its ‘sharp’ edges made it noticeable and also not nice to hold in the hand. But the Neo blends into the pocket as it has curved edges, and is a pleasure in the hand.

The screen on the Ray was quite a lot more difficult to see stuff on than the Neo.

I was right to be cautious of no dedicated camera button on the Ray, it was not so easy to take photos in my opinion.

That’s all really, thanks for your help on this site. I’ve had the Neo for a week and am so far very happy with it.

uliwooly-wooly

I'm glad you are happy with your phone, make sure you have the latest update and that you install the backup & restore app or this other options to backup everything

http://talk.sonyericsson.com/thread/20218

Contacts

just to play it safe sync your contacts w/ google if you haven't already

open your phonebook

press MENU button -> tap on Send Contacts -> select all -> send it to your email

on your computer

-> download the file -> go to your gmail -> click on contacts -> click on more actions -> on the drop down menu click on "import" -> choose the file -> and click import

Apps

Don't worry so much about backing up your apps

on your computer go to

market.android.com -> log in -> click on My Library -> and send all your apps to your phone