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Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Psued — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:24:11 GMT

Hello all,

Greetings!

This is my first post here. Wonder if anyone here can help me with this, I tried looking up stuff in the manual, but can't seem to find info aboaut it anywhere.

My Norton antivurs programme has a back up facilty as well, and when trying to configure it, it asks me to go to the Start / Execute / type in cmd / type in some code in a window. The code includes a tilde symbol which is not present on my keyboard as the computer was bought in Italy and instead of the tilde being on one of the keys, it has accented vowels like àùèìé. How do I access this symbol to type in the code?

TVMIA (Thanks very much in advance!)

PS My computer model is Vaio VGN FE 11H

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Psued — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:52:24 GMT

Still putting out my SOS!

:smileygrin:

Someone, not on this forum, suggested doing a number lock and then doing Alt+126 on the numerical keypad to the right, not the normal ones at the top. Well, doing this gives me a tilde, but high up in the air, not mid way like how a dash is positioned. When I typed in the code using this tilde it gave me "access denied", so does ANYONE know how to get the tilde at dash level?

Pretty please? [:">]

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Blencogo — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:00:16 GMT

Hi Psued and welcome to the Club.

Alt 126 seems to put it in the right place for me using a UK English Keyboard: -

~ ~ABC~ ~

http://www.usefulshortcuts.com/downloads/ALT-Codes.pdf

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Blencogo — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:31:27 GMT

The other thing you could try is to change your keyboard layout from "Italian" to "Italian (142)".

As far as I can see all the main keys are the same but you can then get a ~ by pressing 'AltGr' and '+'. Presumably at the moment you will get ']'.

'+' is the key two to the right of 'p' and one to the left of 'Enter'.

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Psued — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:57:33 GMT

Hi Psued and welcome to the Club.

Alt 126 seems to put it in the right place for me using a UK English Keyboard: -

~ ~ABC~ ~

http://www.usefulshortcuts.com/downloads/ALT-Codes.pdf

Thanks for the welcome!

OK, so when I do the above I get ~ as normal over here, but somehow when doing the same thing as part of the code it appears higher up. I don't know if this affects the code negatively, or it is another problem entirely leading to denial of access. Just curious as to why it would appear differently in this case though.

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Psued — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:09:58 GMT

Well, Blencogo, that leads me to my next question, how do I change the keyboard? I went to the control panel and can't find much there at all.

By the way, the code I have to type in is as follows -

cd %allusersprofile%

cacls docume~1 /T /E /G everyone:F

The only problem with what I type in the command box is that the tilde appears higher up than here.

Yours in great frustration,
Psued

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Blencogo — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:54:13 GMT

Have you tried copying and pasting the command line?

To change the Input Language have a look here: -

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/765a7264-b593-4458-90cf-0d0713b5dfe61033.mspx#E5B

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Psued — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:48:40 GMT

Hello again Blencogo,

First of all, let me just say how wonderful it is to have someome bothering to answer some stranger's questions, thankds very much. I doubt I could ever be of any use to anyone here with their queries!

About copying and pasting the code directly, well, when I try to select either the code or anything else in the "dialogue box" (is that the correct term?) it won't let me. This is a support box for Norton 360.

I will try the keyboard layout option, thanks. Will report back, I have to reboot etc.

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Psued — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:35:02 GMT

Just an update -

My computer evidently had very severe problems, more than just not accepting the tilde, and it went completely nuts* shortly after so I took it back to the shop where I bought it and it was still under guarantee so they sent it off to Sony for me and told me it would take a minumum of thirty to thirty five days before I heard anything. Ack!

Looking around the shop, I came across this VGN-N38Z on sale for 799 Euros, discounted, I believe, from around 1199 Euros. It was the last piece, the display model in fact, and I had the sudden brainwave (duh!) of having two pcs so as to always have something in working order (God willing!). I bought it on the spot and only had to give the keys a rub down with a damp cloth to get them clean and dust free again, and voilà, a great new computer! Now I have a small "stable" of computers.

*Ok, some of the problems - when switched on, after the VAIO logo there was a constant beeping, which stopped when I pressed the return carriage thingy twice. Then, when the password window came up it would go mad and strings of dots would appear by themselves. Afer toggling between the two user accounts, I would get it to calm down enough to type in my password. Sometimes it wouldn't accept a certain vowel and then I would be asked it I had forgotten my password, and on and on...grrr. Can anyone tell me what the likely problem was? At least, what SORT of problem was it? My Norton Anitvirus protection was up to date. Maybe my Windows updates were not bang up to date. I never open email attachments from unknown senders. Any general advice for keeping safe?

Thanks once again. :smileygrin:

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Blencogo — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 23:19:54 GMT

Hi Psued,

The Vaio has obviously been used so I suggest you do a complete Recovery back to factory settings - you just don't know what has been done to it so start from where you would if it had not been used!!!!!

Connect to the mains electricity adapter. Turn on your Vaio and tap F10 repeatedly when you see the first Vaio screen. This will start the recovery wizard which will allow you to select a Complete Recovery to Factory Settings. Do not interrupt the Recovery even if it appears to have stopped.

Next, make your Recovery DVDs (Use 3 DVD±R Discs) by going to Start -> Vaio Recovery Utility and choosing to make a Media Recovery Kit.

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Psued — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:22:24 GMT

Hmm, hadn't thought of that. I haven't come across any problems yet though, the ones I was describing were on my old computer...

OK, one thing I have noticed on BOTH computers is that when I am moving the cursor across the screen from right to left using the touch pad, sometimes it causes the browser window to revert to the previous window, like clicking the "go back a page" button. Anyone else find this, and can it be overcome?

Re: Finding the tilde symbol on my keyboard

Blencogo — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:15:07 GMT

Go to Control Panel -> Mouse or click on the touchpad icon in the system tray.

Go through the Tabs and uncheck the "Use Web Assistant" box. This will stop the 'Go Back a Page' assigned to the top left hand corner of the touchpad.

Can't be more specific - I'm on a Desktop at the moment.