topic Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements in PCs & Accessories

Adobe Acrobat Elements

PaulRaper — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:44:19 GMT

I can no longer create PDFs with this utility as it comes up with the error Unable to find PDF resourse files.

When I ask it to self repair it requires some installer files which don't seem to exist on the laptop, and since Sony hasn't supplied the machine with a complete set of the application files I'm now faced with asking, how do I repair this problem?

Any Ideas?

Paul

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

robpaxton — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:03:37 GMT

You could try reinstalling the application from the recovery disks or the recovery partition.

If you have recovery disks then insert the disk while windows is running and you should be given the option of performing an application recovery.

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

PaulRaper — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:35:13 GMT

Is that on the CD Rom that came with the PC?

Paul

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

robpaxton — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:38:21 GMT

It should be there. If it isn't on the applications list then it may be one of the programs that need a full recovery

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

kee-lo_ — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:19:47 GMT

I remember someone else having this issue, they had to do a full restore

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

PaulRaper — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:51:21 GMT

It is looking very much as that is the case. I have tried to remove it; the system returns an error to the effect that it can not find the path C:\remove\ADOBE~\ and aborts. I have tried to reinstall but that seems to achieve nothing.

It seems a rather pointless thing to supply software which can not be reinstalled.

No matter, I shall probably invest in Acrobat 7 when it's launched, but it is something of a pain in the proverbial butt.

One thing I find totally irratating is that everytime Sony issue a new BIOS flash, I have to reinstall the hot keys manager.

Can someone suggest to Sony that they issue a routine that does this for you. A second irritation on this point is that I always have to reinstall twice. The process never works on the first re-installation.

Paul

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

kee-lo_ — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:50:35 GMT

Acrobat 7 is good if you do a LOT of PDF work, but if you don't do loads then consider buying Acrobat Elements, it's a lot more reasonable price

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

PaulRaper — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:37:48 GMT

That is precisly my purpose. I used Acrobat 4 until I metaphorically wore it out.

I was pleased with 6 Elements, but disappointed when it stopped working on this machine.

I am even more iratated that I do not seem able to either de-install it nor re-install it.

It seems the way of OEM software. We the customers are being driven by the suppliers to accept second and sometimes third rate service and products. Pre-installed software is offered as a bait to buy a particular product. The question is; are you in reality getting that package? That being said, we are now entering the period when:
1. Our cupboards are filling up with old software packages that won't any longer work on state of the art OSs.
2. Products offered for download over the internet that if you have a system crash, you have little hope of reinstalling unless you re-purchase it.

There must be a middle way, and one would assume that it ultimately has to be a collaberation between supplier of the different products to agree to support these packages in a way that allows the customer of whatever machine it comes pre-installed on with the possibility to download a repair routine or re-installation routine over the net.

Paul

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

kee-lo_ — Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:09:54 GMT

Acrobat has two flavours Standard and Professional - not sure why they need two to be honest!

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

PaulRaper — Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:28:36 GMT

It's usually a way of making more money. It also satisfies the Pros by giving them the feeling they are getting something the ordinary man in the street doesn't.

I personally like the idea of the stripped down version. I wish Microsoft would do it. An elements of Excel would be good. I don't need something that can calculate the standard regression of a whatever. A spreedsheet that is easy to use, has only the most basic functions would be fine and save a lot of time.

Paul

http://www.raper-zullig.com

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

robpaxton — Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:56:18 GMT

Have you tried pdf-Xchange from tracker software - iit's a fair bit cheaper than Acrobat. I used to use it and found it did all I required. There's a demo available to download so you can choose your version & try it first to see if it does what you want.

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

kee-lo_ — Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:41:46 GMT

There sort of is a version of Excell cutdown, it's called Works.

As for that program Rob, it does look good.
I hate the way Adobe make two versions, one is enough, and a cheaper edition would be excellent.

There are so many PDF makers now, Adobe better watch it's back

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

PaulRaper — Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:37:06 GMT

I was looking at the versions on the Adobe site yesterday. It's getting way too complicated.

I agree; make one version and be done with it.

I was looking at the upgrade possibilities, and then realised that with version 4 there was only one flavour.

May be they think this is the only way to stay out in front. Personally it seems that when you buy a product, the feature you need most has been some how included only in the most expensive version.

Paul

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

kee-lo_ — Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:14:25 GMT

The bad thing is the upgrades are costing nearly as bad as the original!
About time Adobe realised people can't afford £400 to do like 2000 PDFs a year.

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

PaulRaper — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:45:49 GMT

Just think though, if they reduced the price to something more affordable they would:
1. Sell more product
2. Cut illegal copies at a stroke.

I have no problem buying something which I can see has a value that is in relation to what I get from it. Where I have a problem is when the product costs an arm and a leg, and I can not see how I will get a return on it.

The thing is the software producers are getting us all by the short and curlies by making it close to impossible to do anything unless you buy the latest upgrade.

As you say, the upgrade seems to cost almost as much as the full product which in no way promotes nor rewards loyalty.

What's needed is greater competition. As more firms produce PDFers and readers, Adobe will find that they simply have to cut the costs and become more competitive. It may be too late by then though because the loyalty wont be there any longer.

Paul
:smileygrin:

Re: Adobe Acrobat Elements

kee-lo_ — Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:54:00 GMT

The good thing is now PDF does have competition and Adobe are not alone in making this software. The bad thing is I bet they charge the software companies for using the PDF filters.