topic Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow in Z Series

SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

martinmrmus — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:08:06 GMT

Why did you remove new feature of Marshmallow android to format SD card as internal storage?

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

Qatrium — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:24:47 GMT

Other manufacturers like Samsung and LG had it removed too, for technical reasons. I guess app developers are not ready with this change 100%.

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

martinmrmus — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:29:21 GMT

it's easy undo something then do something properly. besides of lots of bugs of sony's version of marshmallow 😕

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

Rickard — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:17:48 GMT

The information i have is that it was removed because it impacted software encoding and quality.

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

martinmrmus — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:23:00 GMT

And what about all issues uccure and posted here?

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

Monnier — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:31:46 GMT

as far as I can tell it works perfectly on my Nvidia shield. Why can't sony make it work?

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

RobertoDS — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 13:54:42 GMT

I think that this is a good choice

SD Card as internal was studied for low-mid range phone with low storage inside and not for our top range phone !!!

It's better as it has been choiced, because there could be some situations like users who are usually to get their slowish class2 microsd as internal and then they come here to report back a lot of bugs for slowing phone and similia ...

There isn't SD card as fast as stable as our inside memory

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

Monnier — Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:40:59 GMT

@Robertods88 wrote:
I think that this is a good choice

SD Card as internal was studied for low-mid range phone with low storage inside and not for our top range phone !!!

It's better as it has been choiced, because there could be some situations like users who are usually to get their slowish class2 microsd as internal and then they come here to report back a lot of bugs for slowing phone and similia ...

There isn't SD card as fast as stable as our inside memory

It would have been ok if sony didn't use sdcard1 as the external SD Card. Most apps including the OS are using SDCard0 when installing/downloading to a SD Card.

That makes the SD Card useless for many apps and all the extra data is stored on the internal memory instead.

So if Sony had done things correctly from the start this wouldn't be an issue.

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

RobertoDS — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:30:00 GMT

As I told you before, because of some users using their slowish microsd by 2 or 4 class used for apps and something like that, in Sony had to face these ones who did a bad usage of their phone because and had some problems so they addressed, finally, this behaviour not giving possibility and they did well !

They simply addressed the behaviour, difact

Rickard told clearly :

"it was removed because it impacted software encoding and quality"

So it seems clear to all of us that it's better like that with new software

With KITKAT u could do other things

Now, u can't do it simply !

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

SebastianD — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:32:56 GMT

My assumption is that our internal SD card reader is not fast enough.

I have a Samsung Pro+ SD that can write up to 90MB/s but in Z5C can't pass 27-30MB/s

Considering this, it's better to disable this feature for the sake of the performance and also because people doesn't know about this.

A few times I moved "Hearthstone" from Internal Memory to Samsung Pro+ (Lollipop, not MM) and it performed much worse than Internal Memory. The bottleneck is in the card reader, internal memory is much faster for apps, no matter how expensive and modern is your extSD!

Offtopic: For instance, a few days ago in Paris I enabled stamina mode one day ( I never used it so I'm not used to it ) because my phone was at less than 20% battery. Then, I totally forgot about stamina mode and next day I recorded many videos (1080p @ 60fps) with some stuttering. Then I realized that the "+" near the battery icon was the stamina mode still activated and that was the cause of this performance issue.

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

RobertoDS — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 15:34:30 GMT

Exactly !!!

However u had flagged also "lower HW Performance" because of this for sure u had some issues

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

SebastianD — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 22:34:54 GMT

Anyway...

Here is a way to enable this feature using ADB. Read all carefully, the guide is for Galaxy S7, but it's the same for any phone running MM.

http://www.modaco.com/news/android/heres-how-to-configure-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/

I just did this and it works fine. But I don't recommend you doing this:

- I couldn't see the card as a 2nd internal memory when connecting it to a PC.

- The extSD assumes a main role for installations. (All Play Store install go directly to the extSD card, then you need to move each app to the another external storage

You could see more info about how this work here.

The good thing is that the Sony MM gives you the option to "Format as Portable", so you can rollback your SD from private to public without using ADB.

If you really need space and you don't care about performance. Then know that you have this option hidden and you can enable it with ADB Shell (no root, no bootloader unlock required).

But this is more for low end devices with short internal memory.

marshmallow & Adoptable storage?

migube — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:55:36 GMT

Hello

would u have new dates on teh release of Marshmallow?

can u confirm it'll include adoptable storage?

Just bought 64Gb cards to start installing more games

moving to SD card in Lollipo just doesn't seem to move enough data and keeps complaining on the Internal mem being full

migube

Marshmallow use SD card as internal storage

andbauer78 — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:10:39 GMT

Hi,
I desperately wait for Marshmallow on the M4 because of the "format SD card as internal storage" option.

But now I heard that Sony didn't include that in the Marshmallow version for the Z5.

It might be ok for the Z5 but how is it plannes for the M4?

This is the most important feature of Marshmallow especially for a device that has so little free memory like the M4 has.

Please implement this feature !!! It's already included from Google so please take over this very badly needed feature !!!!!!!

Thanks,

andre

Re: Marshmallow use SD card as internal storage

AlkHacNar — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:01:30 GMT

I really hope, that Sony put that feature back in MM 6.0.1. I have a 128GB class 10 SD for my 4k Video's, so i wanted to format it into intermal storage and ......... no option to do so. That's just don't seem right to me. It should be enabled and if i want to do it, i byu a fast sd card. My Navigon eat's 2GB only with it maps. Then the others apps, the music, the videos, the fotos, etc. i dont have enouth internal space. I banned Navigon on the sd ok lollipop and now i must reinstall it and put the maps back on the internal storage because of MM? That's just crap.

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

manjotsc — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 00:38:02 GMT

i cannot set my sd card as internal storage it just don't give an option to do it and if i go to Setting/Storage/Apps/ and select app and try to move it on sd card it just "not enough space in sd" and in notification message pop up saying photo, video and music transfer anly and my sd is 64 gb ( Xperia Z5 Bell Canada ).

How to use my SD card as a part of the internal memory?

Snowstar — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 10:22:25 GMT

Hi!

I have read that with the Marshmallow update it could be possible to use the memory space that way that the phone "thinks" that your memory card is part of the internal memory and combines them. In the end, you have one big memory space.

Have I understood correctly? If so, how to achieve it? My memory card should be very fast, or so the package told, anyway. The phone is Z5 Compact.

Thanks beforehand for all the answers, and have a nice Sunday, everyone!

Re: How to use my SD card as a part of the internal memory?

MarlonUk1 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 10:36:13 GMT

this feature has been removed from the update not just sony's but other manufacturers aswell

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

NeoBeum — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:15:19 GMT

I'm tempted to root the phone now

Re: SD card as internal storage removed from Marshmallow

Jutphaas — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:38:31 GMT

Z3c with 16gb internal storage.. Not enough for me if I cannot use apps like foldermount or link2sd which I cannot even on rooted stock marshmallow.
On Sony concept Rom though, I could format a lexar 128 gb as internal. Which worked great; most apps still use the original internal memory, and apps with a lot of memory usage could be transfered to microsd, as well as having full access for apps to the microsd, which many apps do not have in new stock Rom...