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Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

OgUrecheK — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 05:27:23 GMT

Will there be soon support Vulkan API?

Adreno 430 supports Vulkan API (this was stated by Qualcomm in February 2016).

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Christofer — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:21:09 GMT

Hi @samavar,

I will see if I can get information about this. I'll let you know here as soon as I know anything new.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Christofer — Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:25:19 GMT

@samavar I've received more information today in the form of a list of devices that will support the Vulcan API. I'm afraid that Xperia Z5 Compact isn't one of them.

The following Xperia™ devices support Vulcan API after being updated to Android™ 7.0 (Nougat):

Xperia™ X
Xperia™ X Compact
Xperia™ X Performance
Xperia™ XZ

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

OgUrecheK — Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:55:13 GMT

@Christofer thanks for the information, Sony once again cheated like a manual camera settings.

Sorry for my lame English.

Vulcan api

Xperiaman007 — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 00:02:38 GMT

Snapdragon 810 and Adreno 430 support vulcan drivers and yet Sony disapointed yet again on z5 series and did not include them on 7.0 firmware. I am big Sony fan but Sony destroyed them selves Z series and especialy z5 with bad and outdated firmware constantly (no latest stuff from X series in Z5 that also supports everything like X does).

Why no vulkan, no manual control for z5.

Diolos — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 11:46:18 GMT

Vulkan drivers are available for sd810, why we don't have in the newly released update? Also, someone ported to work on our z5s in xda, but we need unlocked bootloader and twrp, so it's not factible to everyone.
Sony says that they hear to customers, but we asked long time ago manual controls fou camera, and still nothing.

Why this bad support, why this lack of communication? We purchased a premium smartphones to have premium services, and being treated like this, you achieve what you deserve, less and less sales. And coming from an Xperia Sp, then this with a z5, I give up with this company.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Bobeobi — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 18:00:05 GMT

Yes, Sony, tell us, why in 7.0 you stopped 4 of 8 cores completely? We paid for 8 core. -_______-

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Diolos — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 18:08:33 GMT

Just wait, and enjoy reading how their mobile division sinks. I NEVER won't recommend any Sony smartphone. Bad updates for almost "pure stock" android. Security patch? What is this???? Customers?? Pay an overpriced phone, in 6 month another flagship and repeat. I'm going to try my best to publish how Sony treat customers in every tech blog, like Android police, authority and more. That would be honest advertising for you.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Bobeobi — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 18:14:17 GMT

Now looking for another brand, what do u recommend?

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

G94N — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 18:22:41 GMT

I'll wait and see what Nokia and Samsung has got up in their sleeves (though Samsung is as bad at supporting older phones as Sony), or I'll wait for the next Google Pixel to be released (with Snapdragon 835 SoC). If not, I can even go to Apple, you know, and end this "begging for proper updates" shenanigans and finally be at peace for at least 3 years...

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Actman — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:33:28 GMT

Just circulate on how SONY treating those flagship users on every blog, website or even youtube. This company is useless; enough said. We paid for nothing.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Pliggen — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:50:30 GMT

The reason why z2, z1 didn't receive 7.0 was due to lack of vulkan support. Now you don't bring it to Z5 that DO support it? Why? Want an answer, not a list that says which phones will get it!.... Would you be happy with such an answer? We bought premium device but get so poor support.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

blind-oln — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:19:40 GMT

I'm also disappointed that Xperia Z5 didn't get Vulkan Api support with new 7.0 update, but I don't blame Sony for that.

Z1/Z2/Z3 couldn't get Nougat not because they don't support Vulkan Api but because they don't support neither Vulkan Api neither OpenGL ES 3.1. To receive Android 7.0 Nougat, smartphone need to have support for Vulkan Api OR OpenGL ES 3.1. Xperia Z1/Z2/Z3 don't have hardware that can support OpenGL ES 3.1, so Sony & Qualcomm can't do anything.

Right now, Xperia Z5 GPU - Adreno 430 (Snapdragon 810) - doesn't have drivers that support Vulkan Api. On february 2016 Qualcomm announced that Adreno 530 (Snapdragon 820) have support for Vulkan Api, and they have plans to add support for that to Adreno 430 because hardware is compatible. But for know, there are no Vulkan Api drivers for Adreno 430, and that's why Z5 family hasn't got Vulkan Api yet.

But - unlike Z3 - Xperia Z5 already has drivers that support OpenGL ES 3.1, so it meet requirements to receive Nougat. That's what happened. Z5 received Nougat.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Diolos — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:47:05 GMT

Snaodragon 810 has official Vulkan drivers, which are already ported to z5 family, but you need an unlocked bootloader and flash via twrp.Search on xda developers.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

blind-oln — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:57:41 GMT

They ported exclusive 6P drivers, not official, because Qualcomm hasn't yet released official drivers. Ask Qualcomm why 6P got drivers and everyone else don't.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Mh71 — Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:05:36 GMT

I cant believe that!! You gonna say that qualcom just give drivers to google and dont release it for sony??!!

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

jwong810 — Fri, 10 Feb 2017 01:49:05 GMT

yup, the statement can be backed up with the following links:

https://developer.qualcomm.com/forum/qdn-forums/software/adreno-gpu-sdk/33820

https://developer.qualcomm.com/forum/qdn-forums/software/adreno-gpu-sdk/33775

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Khairul_ — Sat, 11 Feb 2017 03:51:31 GMT

I know you're just doing your job but as a company shame on you!
This is some shady business practice and I don't appreciate it.

Sony mobile is a sinking ship and don't deny it. You guys need to realize this, forcing users to adopt your newer X series by barring features from the Z5 won't boost adoption rate, instead it'll do the opposite of what was intended and will only throw off your current loyal customers which oh yes it will and also the potential buyers with all the negative feedback this is going to receive, customers reads review before purchasing things.

Thank you for all the years your products have assisted me in but no more will I ever purchase anything under this branding unless you throw away that arrogance and provide actual good service.

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

Mh71 — Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:11:19 GMT

I found out they completely disabled 4 A57 cores in z5 serries and also they didnt improve opengl es to 3.2 version!!!!! How can they do that???!! Htc m9 got 100000 benchmark with opengl es 3.2 and z3 plus got 70000 just because of these issues. So I agree with you Khairul. SHAME ON SONY!!!!!!!

Re: Xperia Z5 Compact not support VULKAN on Android 7

OgUrecheK — Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:03:18 GMT

blind-oln,

For Google Nexus devices firewood exclusive, remember the Tegra 3 processor.

Mh71,

The A57 cores are not disabled, to check use Multi-Core Observer.

*******

On the website Qualcomm is said to officially release a driver for Adreno 4xx.

Ported driver Vulkan and I think that he is exclusive only for Nexus 6P.