topic Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command in X Series

Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:48:47 GMT

Hi there,

I'm not able to unlock the device using the "ok google" vocal command. (of course, the command is activated and it is working fine if the device is unlocked)

Is there any particular settings I need to modify?

thanks

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:51:10 GMT

I would hope as long as a secure method of locking is used, ok Google will never unlock.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:09:00 GMT

hi there, that's not an answer to my questions!

if I choose to give google the ability to unlock the device with my voice, it depends by me and the security level i want/need.

if you don't want google to unlock your device through vocal command, just keep the option disabled. isn't it??

I'm just asking why this feature is not working on my device, and, of course, if there is a solution.

for your info, i want this feature working, cause while i'm outside with cellphone in pocket and earphone mounted, i want to unlock device and start calling just using vocal commands. (quite comfortable i suppose...)

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:36:10 GMT

And what security do you have on your lockscreen?
If you have secure methods protecting the device the ok Google may not be secure enough to bypass it

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:39:13 GMT

i set up the finger print unlock method.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:41:50 GMT

And by unlock you mean unlock once screen woken up, or wake up screen?

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:50:40 GMT

i think "unlock" should work with the screen switched off.

because if i need to wake up the screen manually it lose the benefits of a complete 100% handsfree unlocking method. is it right?

I would also like to be able to associate this unlocking vocal feature just if the phone recognize the mini jack of the earphone... but this is definitively a second step right now!

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:51:33 GMT

I've just tested this on xz and it unlocked.
I set up in security settings, smart lock, smart voice.
And trained the 3 OK Google commands.
Set options of OK Google to any screen, and unlock.
Once screen is woken, ok Google command will unlock device.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:53:27 GMT

No, the command will not wake up screen, nor will it open to the home page, it will unlock into Google app waiting question or command.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:54:12 GMT

thanks,

i need to review my unlock setting i think.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:56:56 GMT

I think it's enough.

i just need to wake the google app, so that it can listen to my further vocal command, like "start a call with a specific contact" or "set up reminder" etc...

thanks for following the conversation, i ll let you know.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:01:43 GMT

Thanks, hopefully you can get it working as it seems to be hit and miss away from Nexus devices

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:44:20 GMT

it doesn't work, unless the sreen is already woken.

but i think it should work, because in the Ok Google settings there is written: "allow device unlock through ok google when the sounds match your vocal model."

but what's the point of this, if I need to wake up the screen manually before give the phone a vocal input??? sound strange to me!

i think the only solution is a bluetooth earphone with the smartlock setting that keep the phone unlocked until connected to the earphone...

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:49:28 GMT

But,,"allow device unlock through ok google when the sounds match your vocal model" means just that. It will unlock, unfortunately it won't wake.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:56:46 GMT

ok. but what is the difference if the vocal command wake up the phone and then unlock it at same time?

to wake the phone you just need to tap the screen or click the start button... the security control is after the wakin up function.

so, if the vocal command does both things at the same time, nothing change,

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Hardy66 — Thu, 01 Dec 2016 06:29:20 GMT

If the phone was able to wakeup just by a voice command that would imply that the microphone and the DSP (for the voice recognition algorithm) is up and running all the time even during display off and idle mode.

This would drastically drain the battery in standby - surely not appreciated by the majority of users ...

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Lord_viridis — Thu, 01 Dec 2016 08:53:36 GMT

That was what I thought,

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Tomasclaro — Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:00:25 GMT

ok, u're right.

but from a UX point of view i think there are several situations you would need an OK GOOGLE command listening in background also with screen off/idle status.

ie: it's winter, you wear gloves, you have phone in pocket with earphone. you want to start a call. just call ok google through the mic. no need to touch any phisical command. or the same is if you are running in example.

may be with tasker or any other similar app is possible to set specific conditions to have the ok google command listening in background.

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

TimmyXperia — Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:00:23 GMT

Thanks for the post, I believe its a conflicting feature between Google and Sony Android version, the device wakes up on "OK Google" but doesn't unlock the device, so unfortunate

I hope Sony fix this limitation soon, my Nexus 5 which is now dead, was acting perfectly on "OK Google"...

Re: Unlock device through "Ok Google" vocal command

Strampke — Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:37:32 GMT

@Tomasclaro

OK Google only reacts when the screen is awake.

There are different options to help you in this situation.

- If you have a cover on your phone then place a little magnet on the right spot of the cover

- when you open the cover the screen will wake up and you can OK Google with your device

- You can use Tasker or Macrodroid

- set it to wake up when shaking the device and to give you feedback by vibrating, so you know OK Google is expecting you to communicate

I use and used both methods to be able to talk to my phone while driving and not being disturbed by having to watch the phone.

The magnet method uses less battery power.