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    <title>topic Re: XZ Oreo Update makes me want to change phone supplier in XZ Series</title>
    <link>https://community.sony.com.mk/t5/xz-series/xz-oreo-update-makes-me-want-to-change-phone-supplier/m-p/3597424#M34427</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You know, I really do understand your pain coz guess what? I've been suffering the same thing. Battery has really&amp;nbsp;become pathetic since Oreo update. Back in Nougat, I used to have 5 hours and more of SOT. Now, I can barely make it to 3 hours SOT&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;with minimum use&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- before charging again.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Long story short, never buy a Sony device again. Like really, these kind of issues are unacceptable. Who wants to charge a 2900MAh Battery twice or thrice a day?! Disappointing. Personally, I am stuck with this phone until I can buy a new one.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I can only think of two reasons for such a mess: One is that developers can fix the issues related to Oreo but are lazy and would rather give speedy updates without really checking everything beforehand. A second scenario&amp;nbsp;would be&amp;nbsp;that the focus is now shifted&amp;nbsp;towards&amp;nbsp;newer handsets(XZ1 and premium) while ignoring older ones-&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;of course ‘older’ for Sony in this case would mean less than a two years- old flagship&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;......&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;From a business point of view, maybe Sony can’t afford to deliver excellent and hassle-free updates for more than a certain period- maybe a year max? Looking at their financial reports and fiscal year performance, Sony isn't exactly making profit from its mobile segment. Sales figures have significantly declined; it was only by cutting costs and downscaling, that Sony mobile managed to survive in the market; perhaps, it even got some help from other successful Sony businesses like image sensors, which is flying in terms of sales and profit especially when compared with the mobile segment.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Even Sony Mobile CEO announced that company is continuing its presence in the smartphone business only because they are waiting for the next "paradigm shift". For me, that gives me a sense of ‘we don’t care for now’ attitude from Sony. It’s as if they have given up on making a comeback in the smartphone industry. True, it has been tough-&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;for Sony and even other renowned names like HTC, LG and others&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- to compete with Chinese manufacturers who are making cheaper phones with similar or even better specs and features.&amp;nbsp;However, we are talking about Sony! An electronic giant in entertainment, audio and imaging technology. Like for real, it’s not a rocket science. If Money is the issue, then make it the solution! Pitch in some for future investment and it will surely be worth it.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In 2014, Sony Xperia achieved some decent sales figures mainly due to the Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact; it could have been the turning point for Sony. Instead, Sony lost the momentum afterwards by repeating the same mistakes. Things like:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Same design, tiny and iterative improvement, as well as an average camera performance with cumbersome UI and poor low-light performance etc.” Would you believe that the Xperia XZ dialer app literally lags when scrolling through call logs? It has been like that for a year with no fix!! Truly unacceptable!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;As a tech enthusiast and an ex-Sony loyal fan, I have been using Sony phones for many years. I have bought&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;Xperia Play, T, S, Z, Z3C, C4, and now the XZ,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;and I believe that, somewhere in between these iterations, Sony has lost its appeal by simply losing the drive to&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;seriously&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp;innovate and lead the industry like Samsung and Apple are doing nowadays.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I personally see Sony dead and that it’s only a matter of time really. I’ll wait for the day I’m proved wrong. Maybe that ‘ex’ up there will be gone lol.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:10:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SamiSawani</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-01-29T12:10:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>XZ Oreo Update makes me want to change phone supplier</title>
      <link>https://community.sony.com.mk/t5/xz-series/xz-oreo-update-makes-me-want-to-change-phone-supplier/m-p/3597423#M34426</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I recently updated my sony xz to oreo and the phone has become really bad. cant deal with how bad the phone battery has become.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I have reverted back to using me old sony z2 that lasts 10x longer.... Yes 10x!!! longer!!&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Sony when are you going to fix this issue as i am seriously thinking of buying the Google pixle and its a shame as ive been with sony since the old w800 walkman phone.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:29:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sony.com.mk/t5/xz-series/xz-oreo-update-makes-me-want-to-change-phone-supplier/m-p/3597423#M34426</guid>
      <dc:creator>Japman88</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-01-29T11:29:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: XZ Oreo Update makes me want to change phone supplier</title>
      <link>https://community.sony.com.mk/t5/xz-series/xz-oreo-update-makes-me-want-to-change-phone-supplier/m-p/3597424#M34427</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You know, I really do understand your pain coz guess what? I've been suffering the same thing. Battery has really&amp;nbsp;become pathetic since Oreo update. Back in Nougat, I used to have 5 hours and more of SOT. Now, I can barely make it to 3 hours SOT&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;with minimum use&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- before charging again.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Long story short, never buy a Sony device again. Like really, these kind of issues are unacceptable. Who wants to charge a 2900MAh Battery twice or thrice a day?! Disappointing. Personally, I am stuck with this phone until I can buy a new one.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I can only think of two reasons for such a mess: One is that developers can fix the issues related to Oreo but are lazy and would rather give speedy updates without really checking everything beforehand. A second scenario&amp;nbsp;would be&amp;nbsp;that the focus is now shifted&amp;nbsp;towards&amp;nbsp;newer handsets(XZ1 and premium) while ignoring older ones-&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;of course ‘older’ for Sony in this case would mean less than a two years- old flagship&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;......&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;From a business point of view, maybe Sony can’t afford to deliver excellent and hassle-free updates for more than a certain period- maybe a year max? Looking at their financial reports and fiscal year performance, Sony isn't exactly making profit from its mobile segment. Sales figures have significantly declined; it was only by cutting costs and downscaling, that Sony mobile managed to survive in the market; perhaps, it even got some help from other successful Sony businesses like image sensors, which is flying in terms of sales and profit especially when compared with the mobile segment.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Even Sony Mobile CEO announced that company is continuing its presence in the smartphone business only because they are waiting for the next "paradigm shift". For me, that gives me a sense of ‘we don’t care for now’ attitude from Sony. It’s as if they have given up on making a comeback in the smartphone industry. True, it has been tough-&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;for Sony and even other renowned names like HTC, LG and others&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;- to compete with Chinese manufacturers who are making cheaper phones with similar or even better specs and features.&amp;nbsp;However, we are talking about Sony! An electronic giant in entertainment, audio and imaging technology. Like for real, it’s not a rocket science. If Money is the issue, then make it the solution! Pitch in some for future investment and it will surely be worth it.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In 2014, Sony Xperia achieved some decent sales figures mainly due to the Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact; it could have been the turning point for Sony. Instead, Sony lost the momentum afterwards by repeating the same mistakes. Things like:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Same design, tiny and iterative improvement, as well as an average camera performance with cumbersome UI and poor low-light performance etc.” Would you believe that the Xperia XZ dialer app literally lags when scrolling through call logs? It has been like that for a year with no fix!! Truly unacceptable!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;As a tech enthusiast and an ex-Sony loyal fan, I have been using Sony phones for many years. I have bought&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;Xperia Play, T, S, Z, Z3C, C4, and now the XZ,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;and I believe that, somewhere in between these iterations, Sony has lost its appeal by simply losing the drive to&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;seriously&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp;innovate and lead the industry like Samsung and Apple are doing nowadays.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I personally see Sony dead and that it’s only a matter of time really. I’ll wait for the day I’m proved wrong. Maybe that ‘ex’ up there will be gone lol.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:10:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sony.com.mk/t5/xz-series/xz-oreo-update-makes-me-want-to-change-phone-supplier/m-p/3597424#M34427</guid>
      <dc:creator>SamiSawani</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-01-29T12:10:32Z</dc:date>
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