topic Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble? in XZ Series

Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

PatQQ — Tue, 23 May 2017 13:35:26 GMT

Hi,

Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

Just like Google Pixel and Pixel XL will be supported eventhough they are already released.

These are some of the phones that are already in the market yet it got support for Project Treble afterwards.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/26/phones-updated-support-project-treble-continuously-updated/

Our path to a faster OS update ❤️

Pretty excited for it !

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Spoiler

Google announced Project Treble a week ago, which aims to solve this particular problem by separating the Android OS from the 'Vendor interface' (the part with all the low-level drivers and binary blobs). The vendor interface under Project Treble is also designed to be forwards-compatible, meaning that it shouldn't have to be updated for every Android update, in theory.

Thank you very much!

Sincerely,

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

Lord_viridis — Tue, 23 May 2017 13:49:27 GMT

So Googles own devices will support something they invented to work with their own software...

Well, obviously.

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

Jonas — Tue, 23 May 2017 14:28:35 GMT

Hi @PatQQ, thanks a lot for your question!

I will see if I can get some more information regarding this and I will get back to you as soon as I have received it!

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

PatQQ — Tue, 23 May 2017 14:49:44 GMT

Thank you very much for the reply!

I will be listening anytime :smileysmileywink:

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

JensG — Wed, 24 May 2017 10:36:38 GMT

Xperia XZ Premium will be initially released on Android 7.1 (Nougat). Information we receive from Google about upcoming Android releases is confidential, which is a reason why we rarely comment on our release plans until the Android source code is public.

As you've learned, Project Treble is introduced in Android O and of course something to be considered for future updates as well as for new products. It looks like a simple decision in the graphics, but there is of course more to it than it looks on the surface. If you read the Google Blog announcement you may however see a hint about our engagement.

That said, the announcement about Project Treble is fairly high-level so far. What are the promises you see from a user perspective and what are the expectations you hope to get fulfilled?

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

PatQQ — Wed, 24 May 2017 13:38:20 GMT

Thank you very much for the detailed reply.

Looks like Sony contributed dozens of features and hundreds of bugfixes to Android O :smileysmileywink:

I am confident that all future phones will have Project Treble.

Letting Xperia XZ Premium to also support Project Treble is on my wishlist.

I currently have a XZ and hope to be on the flagship phone from Sony. I'm not sure when i'll see another Premium phone again; therefore, I wish XZP does get Project Treble support as it's my next goto phone

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

Nederland — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:25:22 GMT

Waiting for information. Finally, there would be a problem with Xperia updates.

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

najodleglejszy — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:29:55 GMT

apparently Google is working with "some" companies on bringing Treble to existing devices https://reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/6ubstt/episode_75_project_treble_for_the_hal_of_it/dlrity1?context=3 so maybe there's some hope?

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

azzido — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:35:35 GMT

@JensG wrote:
Xperia XZ Premium will be initially released on Android 7.1 (Nougat). Information we receive from Google about upcoming Android releases is confidential, which is a reason why we rarely comment on our release plans until the Android source code is public.
As you've learned, Project Treble is introduced in Android O and of course something to be considered for future updates as well as for new products. It looks like a simple decision in the graphics, but there is of course more to it than it looks on the surface. If you read the Google Blog announcement you may however see a hint about our engagement.

That said, the announcement about Project Treble is fairly high-level so far. What are the promises you see from a user perspective and what are the expectations you hope to get fulfilled?

XZ Premium WILL BE initially released???

OMG I thought it is already released...

Project terrible is not needed, you already ruined the software even without it.

Re: Will Xperia XZ Premium support Project Treble?

najodleglejszy — Sat, 19 Aug 2017 04:52:56 GMT

you realize that the reply you quoted has been posted in May, before XZ Premium was released, don't you?

XZ Premium Oreo and Project Treble

Eriche — Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:06:33 GMT

Hi Sony,

Please integrate Project Treble with XZ Premium devices

It say's we got Project Treble

Your promotional video says that the device will get Project Treble. But it seems we doesn't.

In other hand, please integrate Camera2 API also

Re: XZ Premium Oreo and Project Treble

saurabhr — Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:05:42 GMT

same goes to "Ambient Screen" as well.

/t5/Xperia-XZ1/Sony-Android-Oreo-video-shows-feature-which-are-not-available-in/m-p/1271739#M752

Is there a chance of getting Treble in the future?

Lazaros_K0 — Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:16:08 GMT

Sony must have Treble for phones running Oreo out of the box, like the Xz1 and Xz1 compact. With the recent Oreo update to the XZ Premium, Treble is not supported. I mean, these 3 are exactly the same phones in terms of software and hardware apart from screen size. Since Sony already developed Treble for the Xz1, couldn't the Premium also receive it?

Re: Is there a chance of getting Treble in the future?

Eriche — Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:47:29 GMT

We need answers from sony itself

Re: Is there a chance of getting Treble in the future?

kenny-tetsuya — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:26:05 GMT

I have an XZ1, but I did not see the Treble. Where do you find it?

Re: Is there a chance of getting Treble in the future?

Chris_Huang — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:52:44 GMT

adb shell

getprop ro.treble.enabled

It will return a boolean value, true if your device supports Treble and false if it doesn’t.

Re: Is there a chance of getting Treble in the future?

Eriche — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:57:17 GMT

That command returned false in XZ Premium running Oreo

Re: Is there a chance of getting Treble in the future?

kenny-tetsuya — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:01:10 GMT

I've been reading everything about Project Treble, but I don't really understand what benefits it brings.

Does it mean that, with Treble, you'll get the newest Android version directly from Google? Without having to wait for OEMs (in this case, Sony of course) update?

Re: XZ Premium Oreo and Project Treble

PatQQ — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 13:17:10 GMT

Hi,

I agree with this! Hope XZ Premium gets Project Treble support. Google did mention that it is possible that phones on the market can still get it without having Oreo out of the box.

Camera2api is really a must consider that many camera apps are now taking advantage of this.

Hope to see Ambient Display too; As well as Night Light under Settings > Display.

Cheers

XZP/XZ1/XZ1C same software number different features?

Lazaros_K — Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:54:20 GMT

With the recent update of the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact which is numbered as 47.1.A.5.51 is the same as the XZ Premium, but there are different software features. The XZP doesn't have Treble, New Dialer and Display Flash. I could understand why Sony won't give their flagship XZP treble, even though the software and hardware are exactly the same as the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact which have treble,which means Sony worked on implementing Treble. Display Flash and New Dialer can be added to the XZP no problem. Why Sony didn't update these when the XZP got Oreo. Are they busy with giving Oreo to the rest of the Xperia lineup and then focus on extra features for 8.1? It's a bit disappointing for their 2017 flagship not to have features its smaller Siblings have. It's like The Z5 Premium having less features than the Z5 and Z5 Compact....