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Question about camera performance?

santana1 — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:55:30 GMT

I would like this question answered and maybe it could be a suggestion for the developers and top executives at sony. Why is it that other phone companies using sony's camera sensors take better pics than sony products using the same sensor? With that said I would like to know if the developers at sony care about us enough to try enhancing the camera experience by tweaking the software to improve the camera performance I mean other companies push camera updates to improve there camera performance example lumina 920 portico update has made that average camera amazing. Just something I slept on after my bosses Lumina camera wasn't nearly as good as my tx camera but with an update his camera is making mine look like child's play, this is by no means disrespectful this is a faithful sony customer asking a question to which i'd like a response from sony. We the customers know you can do better than half these other competitors just embrace us when we have logical points and correct us when we step off track and i'm sure you will dethrone the competition.

Re: Question about camera performance?

Daloch — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:09:28 GMT

I am saying the same than you explained since day 1 that I had the Xperia T.

The quality of the pictures it's just ridicilous compared to other phones with the same sensor.

I hope you will be more lucky than me, because for more than I tried, there is no way that anyone from Sony could give me an answer.

To them, the pictures taken with the T are beyond perfect (you should know that wven with a better sensor, the Z has the same issue than the T)

To me, all is a question of a massive JPG compression (not allowing us to choose the quality of the picture).

Obviously, I think all is in the horrible software that Sony has for the camera. Without any doubt, it is the worst camera software that I've ever seen.

Sony knows very well... will the do something?... nah, it's not worth to listen to the costumers once we have paid for this phone.

Good luck man, I am sure Sony will not tell you a single word.

Re: Question about camera performance?

trikesh — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:53:30 GMT

sony is crap....dis is my 1st and last sony cell for sure.....

Re: Question about camera performance?

Daloch — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:33:08 GMT

Yeah man, I agree 100% with you.

But I am tied to my phone company for 19 months with this phone.

As soon as I can I will sell this and I will buy another one (there are lots to choose).

And then by bye Sony forever more.

This is also my 1st Sony... I tell you, I will not repeat this mistake again.

They don't learn, they keep saying lies to the costumers about their phones.

And of course, they don't give a sh*t about out complains.

Re: Question about camera performance?

Imaad — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:04:39 GMT

i dunno about xperia TX but on xperia T as far as i know the camera is awesome in the jelly bean update on xperia T[lt30p]..much better than earlier..focusing is great,superior auto is also awesome does a great job with all the algorithms and sensors..Fast captures also great now,much better than what i had on my previous phone[xperia p(lt22i) which was on ICS..hdr mode is also great
sample pix

Re: Question about camera performance?

Imaad — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:14:05 GMT

A sample with HDR mode on 16:9 (reduced quality and size due to limitation)

Re: Question about camera performance?

Imaad — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:18:27 GMT

another sample using superior auto

Re: Question about camera performance?

Rickard — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:08:09 GMT

When we release new updates we are of course trying to improve things like the camera and if you haven't done so already, i recommend that you update your phone to the latest software. Our latest version is 9.1.A.1.140 but it might not be available for all countries/operators yet.

Re: Question about camera performance?

santana1 — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:30:10 GMT

The question isn't about the jelly bean update this is my question? Why can't you push a software update for just the camera alone to make the camera better i mean sony makes the camera sensor for the iphone and samsung galaxy yet both those phones seem to have better cameras because of how the camera software is optimised. It's just a question out of curiosity and i do have jellybean but putting the shots on pc it's still full of noise and at times oversaturation. Imaad i don't know about you but between the two phones the tx is better the screen is better and the camera looks better as well i've had the luxry of trying both phones for two weeks and in the end i choose the tx my question was and still is this why doesn't sony optimise there camera software better i'll bet that the 13 mp sensor that sony made for the galaxy s4 will produce better pics cause of samsungs software optimization.

Re: Question about camera performance?

Daloch — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 17:09:59 GMT

With the new update, the camera is still the same.

Very poor quality pictures. Lots of noise.

Is that difficult for Sony to allow their costumers to choose the quality?, is it really that difficult???

Since I bought this phone last November, I am trying to say that the pictures are overcompressed.

If to that overcompression, you add a very small sensor and a TERRIBLE algorithm, then you get the pictures that this phone (and for what I saw, the Z too) does.

You add very interesting modes to the camera, but you keep with that HORRIBLE compression.

You really won't learn of your mistakes, isn't it?

Re: Question about camera performance?

santana1 — Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:57:02 GMT

Exactly Daloch the noise is unbelieveable and i'm no camera expert but you seem to know your stuff about photography maybe sony should hire you to help who ever designs the camera software. I mean the phone is great and sexy but taking a photo to print is a disaster.

Re: Question about camera performance?

Daloch — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 07:06:45 GMT

I am not an expert about this, but to me it's obvious that a 13Mpx picture, that is 1,5 or 2Mb size, is just crazy.

There are LOTS of phones that allows you to choose the quality, so then you can choose the size of the picture. this becomes in less compression.

This is something that Sony do not allow to choose to the costumers. And this is BAD.

If the hardware is that good as they said (thing that I am starting to doubt), then it has no sense...

What's the meaning of taking a picture with this phone, if it will be set always in low quality??? (so then, when you'll see in the screen of your computer, it will show full of noise).

That's something that we have to choose, NOT Sony for us.

As I always said, this camera has amazing colours, a little bit overexposed clear zones (thing that still happens and they have not fixed), it is fast, it's a good camera... but at the end, you get overcompressed pictures with lots of noise and poor sharpness.

Would be strange to buy a 30Mpx DSLR camera and do not allow to the customer to choose the quality of the picture, right?... well, in this phone it's the same.

If I want to take a 1,5Mb picture (in the lowest quality) is up to me. But if I want that picture to be 6Mb ( for example, in the max), it's also up to me.

Come on, I wouldn't buy a Ferrari if the engine is set up to do not run more than 50Mph. That is just ridicilous.

As I said, unless the hardware it's a Sh*t, this camera can do MUCH better. And it's an obligation of Sony to allow us to choose.

About printing the pictures, you can do as I do. Retouch the picture and try to get less noise, then apply a little sharpness (not a lot or will also look bad), then print, BUT no more than 10x15cm picture. Some of them maybe can be printed 13x18. More is waste your money, because noone will look well.

So sad, but this is the truth.

I still cant believe how Sony can be that idi*tic company as they WON'T realize of this mistake.

Maybe it's the hardware what is wrong, and that's the reason...

Re: Question about camera performance?

santana1 — Wed, 08 May 2013 14:36:28 GMT

Seems a guy on xda found a way to give us the ultra pixel/pureview trick but it's with an app called vignette.Maybe sony should hire one of the guys from xda to mod there camera app but i'll send you the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266773 the app is a paid app but it's worth it. It surprises me that these home developers are more interested in making the camera better than sony is smh,anyway check the link.

Re: Question about camera performance?

Daloch — Thu, 09 May 2013 06:55:29 GMT

Thanks Santana, I will read closely and I will let you know how it works.

did you see the quality of the S4 picture??????... what a joke for Sony 13Mpx cameras (T and Z).

I have to get that S4 as soon as possible and send this cr*ap T to the garbage.

Meanwhile, I'll check that app and I'll try to do what they explain.

Oh, by the way, do not get surprised... Sony is today what it is... just a company that earns lots of money lying to the customers selling defective products with a high-defective software.

To me, they really waste money making commertials for the cr*ap phones, because the phones themselves are what they are.

That's it.

Re: Question about camera performance?

miffy — Thu, 09 May 2013 07:58:25 GMT

Daloch wrote:

I have to get that S4 as soon as possible and send this cr*ap T to the garbage.

I wouldn't if I were you, many complaints about the S4 having display issues and a poor battery life.

Re: Question about camera performance?

Daloch — Thu, 09 May 2013 16:25:59 GMT

that sounds strange miffy.

I have read that the screen is way better than the S3 1920x1080, and the battery may last one day without problems (less if you play).

Anyways... I have enough to read that few days after the S4 was on the shops, they released a new update because SOME apps had a little lag...

few days after... (if I am not wrong, Sony took 2 MONTHS to release an update after the first JB).

Other than this, I am not sure if you saw the pictures that S4 takes (yes with the exmor RS that Sony did put in their Z)... it is the same sensor... what a difference man... this, more than never, shows me that Sony has no idea of what they do with their software, not now and they will not either. Moreover, let's be clear, Sony do not give a sh*t.

I am sorry but I had enough of Sony, their 60 days updates, and the issues that never seems to be fixed... overheat, toasted sd cards, VERY POOR camera quality, poor wifi signal, etc etc. This is taking months and months and months to be fixed.

Look at Samsung... FEW DAYS after they released the S4 and there was an update for a small lag in som apps... man, this phone has lags since day 1!!!!, customers said 1.000.000 times, and the lag is still there.

I had the T for 7 months, and i am really TIRED. I feel cheated all the way with a no responsible company that I have clear that all they wish is take our money for selling us a defective product and lying to the customers about the quality.

I'll tell you something, they can make the outside very beautiful, with a special shape, with a "great" screen, with an amazing sound... but if inside it is not supported by a good software, all the rest means nothing.

Every time that i changed my phone, I felt sad, because ALL the phones I had (Nokia, HTC, Apple) were with me years. This is the first time I will change my phone, not even one year old AND I will feel EXTREMELY happy doing it.

At the end, is them who will loose customers (look at me, I had 3 iphones ONLY because the quality)... lots of Nokia (at the good times), because the quality... two HTC because the quality...

I understand the people that likes Sony, they do very nice phones, but I expect something else... and definetely Sony, to me, has absolutely NO idea of what they are doing.

Re: Question about camera performance?

alireza_asol — Fri, 10 May 2013 12:27:52 GMT

sony!!!!!!

you must add a option to choose picture quality... it is hard?????????????????

i want very low compression. and large size picture... I DONT WANT storage saving

100% crops are awfull

1.5 MB for 13 megapixel??? its crazy.......

Re: Question about camera performance?

Daloch — Fri, 10 May 2013 12:48:33 GMT

Do not waste your time.

Sony will do NOTHING to fix this defective product that they sold as the best of the best, when the truth is that is a terrible phone.

They don't even care.

Think about this. The S4 has the same Sony Xmor RS sensor than the Xperia Z.... just compare pictures taken with the Z and with the S4... it is just RIDICILOUS.

If you want a good advice, sell this Xpericrap T and go for another phone from a serious and responsible company.