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Jelly Bean? Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:07:00 GMT

in I/O 2011 Sony Ericsson agreed to update for AT LEAST 18 months their devices, the Xperia Arc was released April 2011 which means that it should receive updates up to October but how about the LT15a which was released later on 2011 does it mean that it will get updates until december more or less?

but the MOST important question is, Is Sony going to keep their promise to update their phones for AT LEAST (not up to) AT LEAST 18months as Sony agreed at I/O 2011 ?

http://www.bongizmo.com/blog/google-io-2011-music-movies-and-androidhome-honeycomb-3-1-usb-host/

http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:13:33 GMT

Or are we going to have another 2010 Xperiagate scandal?

The real reason X8, x10 mini/pro, w8 won't get an update? will the 2011 Xperias have the same fate?

http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/121814

to recap Sony Ericsson claimed that there were hardware limitations on their 2010 Xperias to run Android 2.3

but the fact is

The minimum requirements for Android 2.3 Gingerbread are

MUST have at least 128MB of memory available to the kernel and userspace. The 128MB MUST be in addition to any memory

dedicated to hardware components such as radio, memory, and so on that is not under the kernel's control.

Device implementations MUST have at least 150MB of non-volatile storage available for user data. That is, the /data partition MUST be at least

150MB

Now with the 2011 Xperias we have another issue ICS it's not smooth and Sony blames the hardware once again BUT

http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/216930#216930

Xperia Miro	Xperia X10	Xperia Arc
Snapdragon S1 MSM7225A 45nm 800MHz Adreno 200 (enhanced) released Q4 2011 4GB internal memory (only 2GB user accessible) 512MB RAM 3.5in 16million colors TFT microSD up to 32GB 5mp camera photo flash video recording vga	Snapdragon S1 QSD8250 65nm 1GHz Adreno 200 Released Q4 2008 1GB internal memory 384MB RAM 4.0in 65K colors TFT 8mp camera photo light HD video	Snapdragon S2 MSM8255T 45nm 1GHz Adreno 205 released 2011 Dual-channel 333MHz LPDDR2 512 RAM 330 internal memory 4.2in 16m colors TFT 8mp camera photo flash HD video

Xperia Miro

Xperia X10

Xperia Arc

Snapdragon S1

MSM7225A

45nm 800MHz

Adreno 200 (enhanced)

released Q4 2011

4GB internal memory

(only 2GB user accessible)

512MB RAM

3.5in 16million colors TFT

microSD up to 32GB

5mp camera

photo flash

video recording vga

Snapdragon S1

QSD8250

65nm 1GHz

Adreno 200

Released Q4 2008

1GB internal memory

384MB RAM

4.0in 65K colors TFT

8mp camera

photo light

HD video

Snapdragon S2

MSM8255T

45nm 1GHz

Adreno 205

released 2011

Dual-channel 333MHz

LPDDR2

512 RAM

330 internal memory

4.2in 16m colors TFT

8mp camera

photo flash

HD video

Xperia Tipo Dual	X10 mini	Xperia Play
Snapdragon S1 MSM7225A 45nm 800MHz Adreno 200 (enhanced) released Q4 2011 2.9GB internal memory (only 2.5GB user accessible) 512MB RAM 3.2in 262,000 colors TFT 3.2mp camera NO flash video recording vga	Snapdragon S1 MSM7227 65nm 600MHz Adreno 200 released 2008 128MB internal memory ??? MB RAM 2.55in 65K colors TFT 5mp camera flash video recording vga	Snapdragon S2 MSM8255 45nm 1GHz Adreno 205 released Q2 2010 Dual-channel 333 MHz LPDDR2 400MB internal memory 512MB RAM 4.0in 16m colors TFT 5mp camera flash video recording vga

Xperia Tipo Dual

X10 mini

Xperia Play

Snapdragon S1

MSM7225A

45nm 800MHz

Adreno 200 (enhanced)

released Q4 2011

2.9GB internal memory

(only 2.5GB user accessible)

512MB RAM

3.2in 262,000 colors TFT

3.2mp camera

NO flash

video recording vga

Snapdragon S1

MSM7227

65nm 600MHz

Adreno 200

released 2008

128MB internal memory

??? MB RAM

2.55in 65K colors TFT

5mp camera

flash

video recording vga

Snapdragon S2

MSM8255

45nm 1GHz

Adreno 205

released Q2 2010

Dual-channel 333 MHz

LPDDR2

400MB internal memory

512MB RAM

4.0in 16m colors TFT

5mp camera

flash

video recording vga

The New Sony 2012 LOW END Xperias have the same or lower hardware than the 2011 Xperias but they will able to run ICS ok?

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

ShinOrochiX — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:03:45 GMT

I really hope that Sony do not 'ditch' us like how they did with the X10, only time will tell.

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

chardeen — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:26:58 GMT

Why don't you ask Xperia play owners that question. I am sure they will have lots to say .

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:33:01 GMT

I'm an Xperia Play owner aswell

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

mikejodhan — Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:47:42 GMT

So what about Jellybean? Would 2011 xperia's get it? or just 2012 versions ...

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:54:32 GMT

Nothing has being said about Android 4.1 only rumors

this is my take on this

since Jelly bean will be released this year it should go for the 2012 Xperias first then to the 2011 Xperias, that way 2012 xperia owners don't feel cheated, and the 2011 xperias will get a tested bug free, hopefully, update

everybody win

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

mikejodhan — Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:06:54 GMT

yea, HOPEFULLY.

Im fine with ics, but i read that jelly bean isnt a major upgrade, so maybe the non up-to-date phones could handle it?

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:18:33 GMT

I hope so too and I hope that the code it's quite similar so Sony can roll it out soon

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

chardeen — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:19:30 GMT

With all of the performance and stability issues with the ICS updates, do you really want a repeat.

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:21:35 GMT

they might be able to fix the bugs on this, just like Android 2.0 had a lot of bugs and 2.1 was released to fix all this, this could be the same all over again, who knows it might be a lot stable and easier for the 2011 Xperias to handle

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

mikejodhan — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:00:27 GMT

i heard that they are infusing elements of GB to make jelly bean a lighter version of ICS
Hey uli, can u hit me up with a link for rooting my arc s...im out of internal storage :S

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:07:42 GMT

it's all here

http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/38251

Re: Jelly Bean? Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:05:19 GMT

Re: Jelly Bean? Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:21:00 GMT

I do hope that Sony will keep their word.

I'll look forward on this.

Re: Jelly Bean? Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Bionder — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:08:31 GMT

We don't have yet a stable ics version and are you thinking about jelly bean? I have an xperia Ray and if they release a version of jelly bean like ICS, i will pass. I'm still with GB .62.

Re: Jelly Bean? Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

Uliwooly — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 02:14:35 GMT

Jelly Bean could fix this issues we'll have to wait and see

Re: Jelly Bean? Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

kartik77 — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:58:57 GMT

Well, even though Jelly Bean official updates are going to be later in future, Jelly Bean ports have been taking place in the developers' world. Like in case of xperia ARC S, one of the developers' have tested jelly bean boot animation.http://www.androidust.com/experience-jelly-bean-on-arc-s-via-boot-animation/

These are all custom made things.

Re: Jelly Bean? Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

vikramaditya_ra — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:07:04 GMT

I'm pretty certain that the 4.1 JB update would be hitting the 2011 devices soon enough. The question of Sony not releasing the update for these devices doesn't arise.

What makes me so confident -

Contrary to the belief, the 4.1 update is not a major update, it's just an incremental update (if you will) of 4.0.4. Although v-sync & Google Now are pretty awesome, IMO, they're not something that the 2011 devices can't handle.
Since the 18 month deal was public, I don't think Sony will go back on it's word, especially when these devices can very well run 4.1.
There is the Notification LED issue still to be resolved on the 2011 devices running on 4.0.4. In any other situation, Sony would have at least responded to the problem. But, IMO, Sony's silence is indicative of an update coming soon, which may reslove the issues of 4.0.4. Sony must have been waiting for Google to officially announce 4.1 at the 2012 I/O.
Sony damaged its reputation enough by ending it's updates to its then flagship device Xperia X10. The last thing it needs now is to be in an almost similar situation.

Don't worry, guys. I'm pretty certain that the announcement will be made pretty soon.

All we can do is wait for the official announcement & hope for the best.

Re: Sony agreed to 18months updates after the release day, is Sony keeping their word?

kartik77 — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 06:23:59 GMT

I guess 2012 versions would get it officially. For the rest custom made developments would come up. What developers are doing now is making ROMs and themes based on Jelly Bean. One such info is here:http://www.androidust.com/enjoy-jelly-bean-sony-xperia-theme/