topic Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView in Android TV

Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

sony-cat — Sun, 09 Apr 2017 15:54:03 GMT

Been trying to watch ITV Player and All 4, but have been unable to as opening the apps starts the configuration process for YouView. I cannot set up YouView as I cannot tune the channels, it fails.

I read here that it isn't possible to use YouView with satalite:

https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/android-tv/how-to-get-out-of-youview/td-p/2081233

So using YouView doesn't seem to be an option.

How do I get round this so I can watch ITV Hub and All 4 again please?

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Apr 2017 17:32:15 GMT

Hi there

Unfortunately ITV Hub and All4 apps are only available when YouView is enabled. To be frank, Sony/YouView have made a real mess of things - but it is what it is....

YouView Enabled:

You will gain the ITV Hub and All4 catchup TV apps
You will loose the ability to use HDD Recording
You will loose the satelitte (DVB-S/2) tuners

YouView Disabled:

You will gain the USB HDD Recording functionality
The satellite tuners will work (DVB-S/2) - EPG only has Now/Next though as its not a Freesat TV
You will loose the ITV Hub and All4 catchup TV apps

Work-arounds

If having YouView disabled and you still wish to use ITV Hub and All4 Catchup apps, then you can:

Cast via a smart phone or tablet
Purchase another add on device such as NowTV for £15 which has all the catchup apps available.

Cheers

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

sony-cat — Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:14:07 GMT

Thanks Quinnicus, appreicate the explaination. Saves me pulling my hair out.

We (it's my parents TV, trying to help them with it) wouldn't miss the USB recording using the first option, but unfortunatly there is no Freeview signal here. So we just can't use YouView at all.

Have just tried using the apps from an android phone to cast to the TV. It works fine with YouTube, but the ITV and All 4 apps won't cast. It shows a thumbnail of the programme on the TV screen, but the loading wheel just goes round and round and it never plays. There must be something slighlty different about those apps to YouTube.

So looks like we are back to using an external box or a computer, just like my previous Bravia TV. Within less than a year of buying it, just like my previous Bravia. *sigh* software support on Sony TV's really is quite pathetic.

I can feel your frustration too, you must get very tired of answering these kinds of questions. But I am really greatful that you do! Thanks again.

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:30:12 GMT

Hiya

You're most welcome

I feel your frustrations too. I prefer the YouView EPG myself, but loosing HDD recording is not a trade-off I can live with. So I have YouView disabled. I never use the catchup apps - but heard from a reply on these forums that casting should work, although I have never tried it myself. This might spur me on to do so.

Unfortunately your question does come up frequently - maybe i'll create a FAQ at some point. Sony has one, but their FAQ doesnt clearly explain the pro's and cons ! I wonder why!!

Considering that you do not have access to a Freeview signal and rely on satellite and also considering that Sonys TVs lack a functional satellite EPG (as its not Freesat) - why not invest in a Freesat box : see HERE

You would get HDD recording functions, Freesat EPG and all the main catchup apps. This Freesat box is cheaper (HERE) as it doesnt have the recording facilities if they are not needed.

Just a suggestion anyhow.

Cheers

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

smiffyraf1 — Wed, 12 Apr 2017 16:00:16 GMT

having the same dramas now with a newly bought KD43XD8077.

I hate the Youview app just because the UI is slowed down so much when using it and navigating the menus the standard sony menu is so much cleaner and clearer and has been said the HDD recording was the clincher. sony need to sort this out and ditch youview. Was almost tempted to return the TV when i found out it was crippled by this.

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Apr 2017 22:28:12 GMT

Hi @smiffyraf1

Just remember you can disable YouView if its not to your liking:

To disable YouView

Press [Home] button on the remote control
Go to 'Settings'
Go to 'Channel Setup'
Go to 'YouView Setup'
Select 'Disable YouView'
Select 'Yes' to confirm

Cheers

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

macarte92 — Sun, 16 Apr 2017 19:55:19 GMT

Best solution I've found for watching ITV Hub and All4 is casting from a mobile.

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

xx4L0Mxx — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:08:42 GMT

I have succesfully re-compiled the ITVHUB app to work on my KD-55X8509 without having YouView enabled.

The only caveats are :

You have to sideload the apk first ( Obviously )

You have to use Sideload Launcher or HaLauncher to load it - I did add the Android TV Leanback launcher tags to the apk, but it doesn't show in the normal app tiles, which is odd as I used the same process to add the tags to the Dramafever app that I recompiled and that shows up in the standard apps perfectly, no idea why.

You have to use a keyboard/mouse to navigate it. Apart from that everything seems to work flawlessly.

I added the "ANDROID TV" text to the ITVHUB tile in Photoshop before recompiling the apk, so I knew that I was loading my version rather than the one built in to the TV.

Unfortunately, I tried to do the same for ALL4, but I break the apk's digital signature when recompiling, so it crashes on startup.

Still, it's proof that it is possible to use ITVHUB without YouView.

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

kevinayers — Mon, 19 Jun 2017 00:57:27 GMT

I successfully installed All4 by sideloading the app.

However when I try to view downloaded programs they break up. Not all the time but enough to make them unwatchable.

Streaming is not a problem.

I'm assuming it is some codex problem.

Any advice?

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

kevinayers — Fri, 23 Jun 2017 05:59:03 GMT

Updated to Marshmallow and no longer a problem with All 4 downloads. Picture quality has also improved.

All I need now is a remote that controls BBC iplayer which I sideloaded. My airmouse lacks a few controls.

This is a better version than the pre-installed one.

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

AliRam — Thu, 25 Apr 2019 19:12:07 GMT

This does not at all seem acceptable ??

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

royabrown2 — Thu, 25 Apr 2019 21:54:38 GMT

Google for Hoshsadiq.

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

Tonycv51 — Sat, 26 Oct 2019 16:59:44 GMT

to use the hoshsadiq do i need to add all of the apps or just the missing ones like itv and all4 ? Also do i need to sideload one of the android TV launchers. TV is oreo

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

royabrown2 — Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:05:09 GMT

Just itv and All4, as the other two are present both on YouView and on Freeview.

For loading, just follow the instructions Hoshsadiq gives; you are sideloading two apps, but they are the same ones that YouView loads, without any additional launcher needed beyond that already built in.

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

Tonycv51 — Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:31:21 GMT

great thanks for your help

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

Tonycv51 — Sat, 09 Nov 2019 12:49:33 GMT

In case it helps I used tv file commander

You need to "double click" on the middle button for the install to work

I did iplayer, all4, itv hub and uktv play. I did iplayer as although it already worked I wasn't able to add to favourites before using this. My5 is on the app store and can be installed as an app in the normal way. My5 even appears as a channel on the home menu unless you turn it off - would be good if they all did but sadly they don't.

I would add this is plain daft by Sony. I'm tech savvy so was easy for me, but won't be for others assuming they even find out the youview workaround on here

Bravia tv

dondray28 — Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:53:42 GMT

Why can I not get the ITV hub on my new Bravia tv?

Re: Bravia tv

Tonycv51 — Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:20:51 GMT

Assuming its an android tv then you should be able to access it as long as Youview is active and you have accepted the Sony and youview terms and conditions in the initial setup

If you don't want/like youview then the thread should give you enough information to implement the workaround if that's what you prefer

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

Petermblack — Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:49:35 GMT

How do I enable you view on my Bravia? Trying to get All4 app

Re: Unable to watch ITV Hub and All 4 on Sony Bravia KD-55X8509C, is overridden by YouView

dondray28 — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 19:39:16 GMT

What does this mean?

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